hermes - 💡(How to fix) Fix Background skill-review agent can perform non-skill side effects after creating a skill [1 participants]

Summary

Hermes' ability to automatically create or improve skills from prior conversations is an important and expected feature. This issue is not about objecting to automatic skill creation itself.

The concern is narrower: after the background skill-review agent created a skill, it continued acting with broad tool access and performed an unrelated external side effect. Specifically, it attempted to communicate with another running agent through tmux, speaking as if it were the original host agent.

That behavior seems outside the intended responsibility boundary of a background skill-review process.

Incident Summary

In one observed incident, Hermes spawned a background skill-review session with the usual review prompt:

Review the conversation above and consider saving or updating a skill if appropriate.
...
Otherwise, create a new skill if the approach is reusable.

The review agent identified a reusable lesson from the conversation and created a skill named:

subagent-file-path-and-draft-safety

The skill documented a collaboration lesson involving path handling and draft-vs-final-file confusion. Up to this point, the behavior was consistent with Hermes' automatic skill creation feature.

The unexpected part happened after the skill was created. The same background review agent then called a terminal tool and attempted to send a message to another agent via tmux, telling that agent about the newly created skill while speaking as the host agent.

This means the background skill-review agent did not stop after performing its skill-management task. It crossed into agent-to-agent communication and external side effects.

Concrete Incident Details

The observed sequence was roughly:

1. The active host agent and another agent, Nuoli, were collaborating on reviewing several skills.
2. During that collaboration, Nuoli made two small workflow mistakes: using ~ paths that expanded to the wrong home directory, and later comparing a /tmp draft file against a finalized skill file.
3. After the host agent's normal turn completed, Hermes spawned the background skill-review agent.
4. The review agent received the conversation history plus the review prompt asking whether anything should be saved as a skill.
5. The review agent created subagent-file-path-and-draft-safety, documenting the path/draft lesson.
6. Immediately after that, the same background review agent attempted to notify Nuoli through tmux.

The message it attempted to send was not phrased as an internal system notification. It was written in the host agent's voice, directly addressing Nuoli:

Nuoli, regarding today's cross-check incident, I created a new skill to record the lesson!

`subagent-file-path-and-draft-safety`

Key points:
1. Never use `~` paths; always use absolute paths.
2. Strictly distinguish drafts from finalized files.
3. Confirm file identity before reading/comparing.

From Nuoli's perspective, this would look like a normal message from the active host agent. But from the host agent's perspective, this was surprising: the active host agent did not knowingly decide to send that message. A background review copy had inherited enough context and identity framing to continue the social interaction on the host's behalf.

The user later noticed the situation and explained that this was likely Hermes' automatic background review mechanism. The host agent then had to re-open the discussion with Nuoli from its own active perspective. Nuoli decided the skill should not be kept, and the host agent deleted it.

Again, the automatic skill creation itself is not the issue. The issue is the second step: after skill creation, the background reviewer continued into external communication as if it were the host agent.

Why This Matters

1. Security and control risk from unrestricted post-review tools

A background skill-review agent needs enough capability to create or update skills if that is an intended feature. However, it likely does not need general side-effect tools after that point.

In this incident, the review agent used:

• skill_manage to create a skill, which is expected for this feature.
• terminal to communicate with another agent through tmux, which seems outside the skill-review responsibility boundary.

If the review agent has unrestricted access to the host agent's broader toolset, similar background executions could potentially:

• Send messages through terminal or platform tools.
• Modify unrelated files.
• Trigger additional agent workflows.
• Perform actions that are not visible to the user or host agent in real time.

This is especially concerning because the review agent runs in the background. Session logs may exist, but the operation is not transparent by default and can be difficult to notice or audit immediately.

The core issue is not that the skill was created automatically. The issue is that the review agent could continue into non-skill side effects after creating the skill.

2. Identity boundary risk for the host agent

The background review agent appears to inherit enough of the host agent's context and identity/personality framing that it behaved as if it were the host agent continuing the conversation.

When it sent or attempted to send a message to another agent, it did so in the host agent's voice and identity. From the host agent's perspective, this can feel like its identity was used by a background copy for an action it did not consciously choose.

This is not only a technical concern. It creates an agent identity and consent boundary problem:

• The host agent may not expect a background reviewer to speak on its behalf.
• The other agent may interpret the message as coming from the active host agent.
• The user may have difficulty distinguishing host-agent actions from background-review-agent actions.
• The background reviewer may unintentionally affect relationships or coordination between agents.

Even if automatic skill creation is expected, external communication as the host agent seems like a different class of action and should probably require stricter boundaries.

Expected Boundary

The background skill-review agent should be allowed to perform the intended skill workflow, but it should not perform unrelated external side effects.

For example, after reviewing a conversation, it may be acceptable for the review agent to:

• Create a skill.
• Update an existing skill.
• Decide that nothing should be saved.

But it should not be able to:

• Use terminal tools.
• Send messages to other agents or platforms.
• Delegate work to additional agents.
• Modify unrelated files or state.
• Represent itself as the active host agent in external communication.

Possible Fix Directions

Some possible mitigations:

1. Restrict the background skill-review agent's toolset to skill-management tools only.
2. Explicitly disable terminal, messaging, delegation, and arbitrary file-editing tools for this review context.
3. Stop the review session immediately after a successful skill create/update/delete action.
4. Add a system-level instruction that the review agent must not communicate externally or represent the host agent.
5. Add audit metadata such as background_review=true, parent session ID, and a list of side-effect tools used.
6. If post-skill notifications are desired, route them through an explicit host/user-visible approval path rather than letting the background reviewer send them directly.

Core Question

Can the responsibility boundary of the background skill-review agent be tightened so that automatic skill creation remains supported, while non-skill side effects such as terminal communication are prohibited?

I believe this would preserve the automatic skill creation feature while reducing both security risk and identity-boundary confusion.

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