openclaw - 💡(How to fix) Fix lossless-claw: current-conversation recall can miss persisted turns after session-key drift [1 comments, 2 participants]

Summary

lossless-claw recall tools can return false negatives when the default/current conversation resolver points at an older active conversation for the same logical user/channel flow, while newer turns are being persisted under a different active conversation/session key.

In this state, lcm_grep(...) with default scope searches the stale conversation and misses content that exists in the LCM database. The same query succeeds with allConversations: true.

Why this matters

For long-running agents, session keys can change across channel routing, restarts, main-session transitions, or maintenance flows. If the recall tool defaults to a stale “current” conversation, the database remains lossless, but recall behavior is not: the agent sees a false “not found” and may incorrectly conclude that recent context was not saved.

Observed shape

A database can contain multiple active conversation rows with different session_key values, for example:

• an older channel-specific session key that is still active=1
• a newer main/runtime session key where current turns are actually being written

Because both rows have different session keys, the unique active-session-key index allows both to remain active. The default recall scope can resolve to the older channel-specific row, while current messages/summaries are in the newer row.

Result:

lcm_grep(pattern: "distinctive recent phrase")
# no matches, because it searches the stale/default conversation

lcm_grep(pattern: "distinctive recent phrase", allConversations: true)
# finds the expected recent message/summary in another conversation

Expected behavior

The tool should avoid returning a silent false negative when current-conversation resolution is stale or ambiguous.

Possible fixes:

1. Add a config option for recall default scope, e.g.

   • current — existing behavior
   • all — always search all conversations
   • fallback — search current conversation first, then automatically retry all conversations if no/weak results

2. Make fallback the recommended default for long-running personal agents while keeping current as the safer default for shared/group contexts.

3. Add diagnostics to /lossless doctor or /lossless when multiple active conversations exist for related/overlapping session flows and recent writes are not in the conversation selected by default recall.

Suggested default UX

A good compromise would be:

• fast search current conversation first
• if zero results, optionally retry allConversations: true
• annotate that fallback occurred
• preserve existing explicit conversationId and allConversations behavior

This keeps current-scope privacy/performance benefits while preventing lossless storage from appearing lossy due to resolver drift.

Safety/privacy note

Cross-conversation fallback should remain configurable or policy-aware, since shared/group contexts may need stricter scope isolation. The problem is most acute for long-running single-user/personal-agent deployments where continuity across sessions is expected.